Managing Marketing

Jarrod Allen And Darren Navigate The State Of Play Of SEO and GEO

Jarrod Allen, Associate Director, Strategic Media Solutions at .monks discusses the transformative impact of AI on marketing, particularly focusing on the shift from traditional SEO to generative engine optimization (GEO). 

He explores how AI is changing consumer behavior, the importance of understanding audience language, and the challenges marketers face in measuring success in this new landscape. 

The conversation also touches on the future of agentic commerce and the need for authenticity in AI-driven marketing strategies. This is a rapidly evolving field and this conversation represents and important touchpoint in the evolution in search for brand and marketing.

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Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Joel Kleber And Anton Reveal The Truth Behind Jim’s Group’s Success

Joel Kleber, CMO of Jim's Group, admits that he’s not a classically trained marketer. And thankfully is glad that he’s not. Otherwise he may never have achieved the commercial heights that he has if he was bogged down by process, frameworks and risk-averse thinking.

Joel shares how he helped spearhead the explosive growth of Jim’s Group with their digital presence and franchise recruitment strategy. Which now achieves over a $1b annual turnover from over 5,700 franchisees across more than 50 divisions in Australia, NZ, Canada, and the UK. 

From AI tools, failing, and harnessing real authenticity, to letting go and trusting the network to inspire people, Joel shares Jim’s Group’s unique recipe for success. 

Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190  

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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/  

Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Amanda Connors And Darren Talks About How To Thrive With A Diverse Marketing Career

Amanda Connors, a seasoned marketer with a diverse career spanning retail, banking, and wellness. Amanda discusses the challenges and transformations in marketing, the importance of resilience, and the strategies she has employed to build successful brands. 

From her early days at Myer to her impactful role at Priceline and beyond, Amanda shares insights on customer obsession, community building, and the evolution of marketing in a rapidly changing landscape.

Amanda has not just embraced the challenges of these categories, businesses and marketing, she appears to relish them. From retail, to banking, to wellness and beauty, she has not just survived, she continues to thrive.

 

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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/  

Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Ellie Angell And Darren Reveal Insights From Agency Pitches Gone Wrong From The Undercover Consultant

Ellie Angell goes undercover to delve into the complexities of the agency pitching process. She discusses the challenges faced by agencies, including emotional tolls, the role of procurement, and the importance of clear communication and feedback. 

The TrinityP3 State of the Pitch report has shone a light into the pitching process as it is practiced and revealed what many feel, but few could articulate. That is the problem with pitching is it is not broken as some maintain, but it is suffering often from poor management and even worse behaviour, particularly by a few procurement professionals and marketers.

But just how bad is this behaviour? Surely some of the reports of poor time management down to outright rudeness is a huge exaggeration. Ellie went behind the scenes to a few agencies who were in the pitch process to see first-hand and report back. 

What she shares highlights the need for a behavioral reset in how agencies and marketers interact during pitches, emphasizing the necessity for a fair and reasonable process that respects the efforts of all parties involved.

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Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

John Elbing And Darren Discuss Storybuilding As A Technique For Building Brand Stories

John Elbing, the author of 'Story Building: Your Brand from Their Standpoint”, explores the critical differences between storytelling and story building, emphasizing the importance of understanding the consumer's perspective. 

John shares insights on how effective storytelling can create emotional connections, enhance brand recognition, and drive consumer engagement. The conversation also delves into the complexities of B2B marketing, the founder advantage in storytelling, and the need for consistency across different audience segments.

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Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Ahron Young And Darren Talk On The Role Of News Media For Brands And Business

Ahron Young, founder and CEO of Ticker News, to discuss the current state of journalism, the evolution of news media, and the challenges faced by modern journalists. Ahron shares his personal journey in journalism, from his early days as a cadet journalist to becoming a foreign correspondent and eventually launching Ticker News. 

The conversation delves into the impact of technology on journalism, the importance of maintaining integrity in news reporting, and the innovative approach Ticker Studio takes in creating engaging content for audiences. Ahron emphasizes the need for journalists to adapt to the changing media landscape while remaining committed to delivering credible and authentic news.

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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/  

Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Angela Tangas, Jack Smyth And Darren Discuss Unlocking the Power of Agentic AI for Brands

Angela Tangas, the new Global Oliver CEO and The Brandtech Group’s Chief Strategy Officer, and Jack Smyth, Brandtech and Jellyfish’s Country Lead in Australia, discuss the transformative impact of agentic AI on marketing. 

We explore the definition of agentic AI, its applications in real-world marketing scenarios, and the benefits it brings to efficiency and decision-making. The conversation also delves into the importance of building consumer trust in AI, the evolving landscape of branding, and the role of creativity in the age of AI. Additionally, they discuss how organizations can attract and retain talent in this new environment and provide methodologies for implementing AI effectively in marketing strategies.

If last year was the year when Generative AI took centre stage with some high-profile brand film productions, then this year is looking to be the year of the agents. Agentic AI is not just the hot topic; it is driving brand transformations as the new operating system for brands, for creativity, for growth and for talent attraction and retention.

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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/  

Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Jon Wild And Anton Talk About Simplifying Marketing To Easily And Successfully Execute At Scale

Jon Wild shares his insights into how to create a growth engine for a business. From Pet Circle and Groupon, to Hotel Club, Unilever and O2 to name a few. 

He shares why and how he distills data to discover a true insight, creates focus for competitive advantage, and rallies resources and teams to run tests successfully at scale. Across all the Ps of true marketing. 

Jon emphasizes the need for simplicity in strategy, the significance of understanding unit economics, and the evolving landscape of customer engagement through personalization and effective marketing strategies.

Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190  

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Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Lydia Feely, Kylie Ridler-Dutton And Darren Chat Navigating The Marketing Landscape: Insights For The Year Ahead

Lydia Feely, General Manager and Kylie Ridler-Dutton, Senior Global Agency Consultant discuss the complexities and challenges faced by marketers in 2025, including the rise of AI, budget constraints, and the evolving role of procurement. 

The past year has been a roller coaster ride with holding company consolidations, the continued growth of the independent agencies, principal based media trading, the continued dominance of the social media and technology platforms, the transformational impact of artificial intelligence and more.

Lydia and Kylie explore the impact of the creator economy and the importance of effective agency collaboration, as well as strategies for navigating the changing landscape in 2026.

Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190  

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Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

TrinityP3 Consultants Talk About The Issues Facing Marketing And How To Address Them

In this special end-of-year episode of Managing Marketing, host Darren Woolley, Founder and CEO of Trinity P3 Marketing Management Consultancy, brings together a dozen of Trinity P3's subject matter experts to discuss the biggest issues and opportunities facing marketers and their agencies in the coming year, covering topics from pitching and data to finance, DEI, and environmental reporting.

TrinityP3 consultants include Kylie Ridler-Dutton on the challenges of pitching, Nathan Hodges on dealing with complexity, Nick Hand on defining value, Stephen Wright on the impact of AI on media, Adrian Treahy on first party data and privacy, Christopher Sewell on Net Zero Marketing, Ellie Angell on the importance of DE&I, Anton Buchner on IA - Increasing Accountability, Lydia Feely on prioritise to do something, Dr Kate Gunby on measurement, Mark Smith on the BetterPitch and Jeremy Taylor on the conflict of interest for Intermediaries.

Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190  

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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/  

Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.