Managing Marketing

Henry Innis And Ellie Chat About The Evolution And Explosion Of MMM

Henry Innis is the co-founder and CEO of Mutinex.

In a typically frank exchange of views, Henry and Ellie talk about the long evolution and more recent explosion of MMM; the strengths and weaknesses of modelling; the various challenges of making a modelling project sticky and meaningful; the art of pitching for MMM; the potential and complexity of the huge US market; working with MMM and agencies, and new technology horizons.

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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ 

Recorded live on Zoom and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Nick Hand And Darren Talk Agency Fee Models You Many Not Have Considered

Here is a question: how many ways are there to pay your advertising agency? No, this is not a joke or a riddle. 

Although, the fact that the advertising industry considers itself a “creative” industry and the dominant way they are paid is still the same as labourers and unskilled workers (that is by the hour), is a joke.

To discuss this issue and explore the many ways they can be paid, please welcome back to the Managing Marketing Podcast, the commercially savvy, hands-on Finance Director, a CPA with more than two decades of experience managing the finances of media, creative, PR agencies and more, Nick Hand.

Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 

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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ 

Recorded live on Zoom and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Damien Thomson And Darren Chat About The State Of Carbon Measurement In Advertising

Damien Thomson is the CEO & Co-Founder of Net Zero Media, a purpose built technology to effectively measure and analyse the emissions associated with all media and marketing activity.

While the President of the United States of America promises to “drill, baby, drill“ for oil and gas, the rest of the world is focusing on ways to transition to a sustainable energy model.

However, when discussing how to minimise the impact of the climate crisis, much of the conversation focuses on industries such as transport, construction, energy, and the more obvious greenhouse gas emitters. The role media and advertising play is often overlooked. Yet advertising produces more GHG emissions than the aviation industry.

Damien shares his perspective on the current and future state of carbon measurement in media and advertising and the role each of us must play.

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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ 

Recorded live on Zoom and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Belinda Lodge And Ellie Discuss The Trials And Tribulations Of An Advertising Recruiter

Belinda Lodge is the founder and CEO of iPopulate, a well known recruitment agency for advertising professionals.

In a frank and wide-ranging discussion, Belinda and Ellie talk about bootstrapping a business with $400 and a milk crate; what a good recruitment consultant can bring to the table, and how perception of consultancy is blurred by individuals and organisations untrained in the discipline of recruiting; the best and the worst in candidates, and candidate selection, post-COVID; the scourge of under and over-remuneration of talent, international v local talent, and more - all threaded with Belinda’s infectious enthusiasm, her candid observations and her genuine love for her craft and for the advertising industry.

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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ 

Recorded live on Zoom and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Cheuk Chang And Ellie Talk About The Challenges Of Building Agency Businesses

Cheuk Chang is the CEO of Bastion Group, and has a huge agency career behind him, spanning regional leadership roles across Australia and APAC.

Chuek Chiang And Ellie Talk market differences, building a media function from the ground up, global mergers and the continued importance of our industry’s role and the need for courage in promotion of DE&I, not just in your organisations, but via the power of marketing and advertising - despite some who got it wrong. 

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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ 

Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Emily McGregor And Darren Discuss What’s So Not Funny About Advertising

Emily McGregor is the founder and CEO of PenguinCat Creative. She also has over 20 years of experience in video sketch comedy, marketing across diverse industries, and leading creative teams. 

Her work has helped bestselling authors, top influencers, eCommerce brands, and industry-leading coaches achieve results like sold-out events, tripled memberships, and doubled open rates.

In a past role as VP of Production at Comediva, a comedic content studio, she wrote and directed viral videos (with millions of views), branded content for major brands like Pepsi, and even sold a TV show to Amazon.

​​In a world where we all appreciate a laugh, a titter, a guffaw, a chuckle, a chortle, a giggle, a cackle, a howl or a snigger, Emily shares the power of humour in advertising and marketing and why marketers and agencies need to take the risk.

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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ 

Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Arvind Hickman And Darren Talk About The Challenges Of The Trade News Media

Arvind Hickman is the features and analysis editor of marketing trade media title B&T. He is a journalist and editor with experience across sport, HR, constructions and most recently media and marketing. 

The advertising model is broken when it comes to news media. The major tech platforms, particularly Google and Facebook (AKA Alphabet and Meta) stand accused of undermining the news media publishers, with some governments intervening to support news media.

But, it is not just news media that has been impacted. Even the marketing and advertising trade media has suffered from the shift in advertising revenue to the major platforms. Some publishers have transformed their business models away from advertising to events, subscriptions, awards, events, membership fees and other paid models with mixed success.

Arvind provides an industry insider perspective on the challenges and opportunities for the trade news media industry.

 

Listener's note: Since the publication of this podcast, Michael Lynch, Publisher of Campaign Brief, has reached out to inform us that the outlet has now ended its "pay to play" policies, which saw the publisher require agencies/media owners seeking to have their media release published on the site to sign up for advertising packages of between $750-$2000 (or $550 if you wanted a one-off news story that would lead that day's CB Daily Bulletin). The change (which, to our knowledge, was not publicly announced at the time) coincided with Campaign Brief switching off its anonymous comment thread, following massive pressure from the creative agencies who made the difficult decision to boycott the publication. TrinityP3's position on play-to-play remains that all trade publishers should disclose their commercial arrangements in line with AANA regulations. 

 

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Recorded live on Zoom and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Rich Curtis And Darren Share The Trends And Insights From A Decade Of Brand

Rich Curtis is the CEO of FutureBrand Australia and discusses the complexities and challenges faced by brand leaders worldwide during the past decade based on the findings of the latest FutureBrand Index.

The FutureBrand Index is ten years old this year and rather than looking at the year on year trends, they have taken a widescreen view of a decade in brand.

Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 

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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ 

Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Tess Ariotti And Darren Talk About The State Of Sustainability In Marketing

Tess Ariotti is the Lead Consultant at Salter Baxter, part of the Publicis Groupe of companies, who specialise in developing sustainability strategies at global, local, corporate and brand level and activating across the value chain.

Sustainability is a hot topic. The UN Sustainability Goals set a global agenda for 2015 to 2030. Now almost two thirds of the way into that agenda, progress has been slow, but steady. Some point to the global pandemic, other to the subsequent economic slow-down. 

But where are we today? What are companies and corporations doing? And what could they be doing? And for us in marketing, what is the role for marketing?

Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 

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Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Peter Kirk And Darren Discuss Indigenous Storytelling In Marketing And Advertising

Peter Kirk is a multi-award-winning Indigenous TVC and film director, creator and connector at Campfire x. Campfire x is an Indigenous-owned and run creative consultancy agency that brings Indigenous thinking and talent into the mainstream by unifying the 97% of Australians who are not Indigenous with the 3% who are. They develop creative strategies that communicate to all of Australia and de-risk how companies and brands engage with the world’s oldest storytellers, enriching the nation’s view of itself.

Peter shares the benefits and challenges of working with Indigenous creators and storytellers and the fundamental changes we need to make as an industry, brand leaders and individuals to access this benefit directly and maximise the performance of genuine and authentic storytelling.

 

Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 

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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ 

Recorded live on Zoom and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.